Very happy to see the Best Documentary Oscar list perform so well in the poll. Hopefully it stands a chance of being considered for adoption in the future.
It's so nice to see that a list of "road movies" is considered more important then any of the lists for Academy Award winners.
You bemoan the lack of participation yet it has taken you MONTHS to come to this result of basically a mere 4 new lists. Why should anyone go to all the trouble in participating in this process when not even the #2 choice is made official??
It seems like a case of "too many cooks", and makes one question the motives and/or prejudices of whoever is making these decisions. Really, how hard is it?
Why would anyone be interested in voting, you guys do whatever you want anyway. It takes you about a year to add some half-descent lists and you remove one of the better ones. You guys need to realize that you're not curating the Louvre over here.
I don't think that “One Hundred Film and One Country, Italy” was a suitable choice for the official lists on the first place. It's a list of movies, predominantly by auteurs, produced in an arbitrary timeframe (1942-78), and only a couple of them can be considered “for the masses”. It claims that those movies are “essential to Italian cinema”, but those restrictions leave out a lot of movies that are valid representatives of the Italian movie production. The other Italian cinema list, “Il Grande Cinema Italiano”, offers a much better – but far from perfect – overview of the country's film history, even better than FilmTV's list.
(And I'm fine with making movie lists unofficial. Ticking off movies from lists is a fun side activity, but watching movies should be more than that. Official lists also serve a better purpose, i.e. guiding watchers through the history of cinema along a particular genre, country, or mindset: If we get better lists, I think it's okay to get rid of the old ones.)
I have neither positive nor negative reaction to the changes. I just want to thank you for creating and maintaining a site that is a big part of my movie-watching life.
It would be great if there was a page somewhere (icm itself or on one of the forums) that would lay out the general rules for mods in regard to list adoption and, more importantly, list removal and list replacement.
Right now there seems to be substantial confusion about
the guidelines involved, even amongst the mods themselves.
This could maybe help avoiding frustrating and alienating some of us more dedicated users.
So many crybabies in this comment section. You should be grateful that some people are willing to use their time doing things that help ICM evolve. I see the same users complain about the same thing, and i understand the reason. But writing it 50 times is just rude, considering all the work that´s been done without gaining any money, and in the end, it´s just pathetic.
This controversy really bewilders me. If you're that furious about "wasting time" watching films that have now turned unofficial, you're watching movies for the wrong reasons. And it's not as if the demoted lists aren't still available to work on.
You'd think ADDING new official lists would be the real controversy but, no, everyone just wants more and more official lists because every time there's a new set of adoptions, whee, it's like Christmas morning with a stocking full of new, happy-accident checks. And getting that temporary high is so much more important than the ongoing devaluing of what "official" status means.
Demote the They Shoot Zombies and 1000 Noir Films lists next. Literally hundreds of lousy films are official solely because of those two lists.
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Thanks, but 10 years with not even one adult list.Armoreska
By the way, still no kids movies lists, unless you count animation as one which of course it's not, not exactly.But thanks for making 4 additional lists official.
Armoreska
Not a fan of making lists unofficial when there's nothing wrong with them! =(sol-
Very happy to see the Best Documentary Oscar list perform so well in the poll. Hopefully it stands a chance of being considered for adoption in the future.Cinephage
What's happy about checking films that can become unofficial at any given time ??Nopros
This is fucked. I know users that are choosing to stop paying for ICM premium after this fucked up decision. Please stop removing good lists.nimimerkillinen
Horrible decision taking lists awayMovieDearest
It's so nice to see that a list of "road movies" is considered more important then any of the lists for Academy Award winners.You bemoan the lack of participation yet it has taken you MONTHS to come to this result of basically a mere 4 new lists. Why should anyone go to all the trouble in participating in this process when not even the #2 choice is made official??
It seems like a case of "too many cooks", and makes one question the motives and/or prejudices of whoever is making these decisions. Really, how hard is it?
jeroeno
Why would anyone be interested in voting, you guys do whatever you want anyway. It takes you about a year to add some half-descent lists and you remove one of the better ones. You guys need to realize that you're not curating the Louvre over here.miramarco
I don't think that “One Hundred Film and One Country, Italy” was a suitable choice for the official lists on the first place. It's a list of movies, predominantly by auteurs, produced in an arbitrary timeframe (1942-78), and only a couple of them can be considered “for the masses”. It claims that those movies are “essential to Italian cinema”, but those restrictions leave out a lot of movies that are valid representatives of the Italian movie production. The other Italian cinema list, “Il Grande Cinema Italiano”, offers a much better – but far from perfect – overview of the country's film history, even better than FilmTV's list.(And I'm fine with making movie lists unofficial. Ticking off movies from lists is a fun side activity, but watching movies should be more than that. Official lists also serve a better purpose, i.e. guiding watchers through the history of cinema along a particular genre, country, or mindset: If we get better lists, I think it's okay to get rid of the old ones.)
Blocho
I have neither positive nor negative reaction to the changes. I just want to thank you for creating and maintaining a site that is a big part of my movie-watching life.mathiasa
It would be great if there was a page somewhere (icm itself or on one of the forums) that would lay out the general rules for mods in regard to list adoption and, more importantly, list removal and list replacement.Right now there seems to be substantial confusion about
the guidelines involved, even amongst the mods themselves.
This could maybe help avoiding frustrating and alienating some of us more dedicated users.
NevertrustGoogle
So many crybabies in this comment section. You should be grateful that some people are willing to use their time doing things that help ICM evolve. I see the same users complain about the same thing, and i understand the reason. But writing it 50 times is just rude, considering all the work that´s been done without gaining any money, and in the end, it´s just pathetic.A Blue Roar
Removing official status from lists seems to be a rather controversial issue. I'm mostly just grateful to have this website, thanks for the new lists.Ebbywebby
This controversy really bewilders me. If you're that furious about "wasting time" watching films that have now turned unofficial, you're watching movies for the wrong reasons. And it's not as if the demoted lists aren't still available to work on.You'd think ADDING new official lists would be the real controversy but, no, everyone just wants more and more official lists because every time there's a new set of adoptions, whee, it's like Christmas morning with a stocking full of new, happy-accident checks. And getting that temporary high is so much more important than the ongoing devaluing of what "official" status means.
Demote the They Shoot Zombies and 1000 Noir Films lists next. Literally hundreds of lousy films are official solely because of those two lists.
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