I noticed a lot of comments about which lists to follow and I thought I'd share my own personal tact of using this site. Before I stumbled on here I used to literally print out TSPDT, IMDB 250, 1001, Criterion, and Academy and cross reference to see which movies were on the most lists. This website does that for you. Go to the movies tab, scroll down to "unchecked", then hit the tab for "on most lists". Seeing the movies that are on lists like TPSDT plus critics lists in addition to awards lists is in my opinion the best way to attack the abyss of movies out there. Personally I think this list holds the most prudence, but the top 250 is more important of an achievement for me and holds more of the movies I enjoy. The art aspect may dominant here, but the popularity aspect may dominate on IMDB 250. Different lists entail different qualities.....just as the Film Noir list is so specialized. It is important to me to be a well rounded movie watcher......I may have suffered through Persona and Toy Story 3...but I needed to watch them because I know they are both culturally important. I may not understand the level of every peel of onion in Stalker but to me movie watching is about visiting every culture, traveling to every point in time, knowing what people were watching in 1915, understanding why those vamp kids act the way they do, knowing every aspect of life. Movies give me a chance to do that. The one perfect list doesn't exist....but utilizing all the lists and understanding what they each achieve is beneficial. All the IMDB lists may dilute this tact but in most ways you'll find it works nicely. Thats what's so amazing about this site!
It would be nice too see the 'checked' and 'unchecked' movies combined on one list to sort by number of top list entries. Unfortunately, that means #436 on the Top 500 Horror list counts just as much as making Roger Ebert's Great Movies list, but hey.
My imaginary perfect canon would be TSPDT, with adjusted weights so that more movies made before 1955 or after 1975 have more representation.
As far as 1000 lists go, they are large undertakings, and must be flawed. This one I feel is flawed in many ways because it is only critical opinions determined by a formula. Which is useful to a certain degree, but as a starting point, not as good. I'm starting with the 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die list, which will give me a starting point for this list and Rosenbaum's. I don't put much stock in the NY Times one however, as I feel it is too flawed and unjustified. Just some thoughts.
my point wasnt to call Dark Knight an undeserving movie (although in my opinion it is not top 1000).
My point was that every list is flawed. This list is flawed because it leaves off several modern classics in favor of older movies that arent as well known and that I LIKED that. Ive always loved Wilder and Godard...but because of this list I saw "One, Two, Three" and "Tout va Bien", underrated gems in their filmographies. Personally, I feel like adding the RT ratings *might* may make this list more accurate, but really takes away some of its uniqueness and charm.
Robocop is a masterpiece. I say that without flinching. The composition, the pacing,the beautiful stop motion sfx and the German Expressionist feel mixed with Verhoeven's fucked up sense of humor make it a priceless gem of a movie. As for Kill Bill It is insanely enjoyable. Having just sat through one the most painfully dull movie I have ever seen, The Hours of the Furnace (highly ranked on top of it all,) I would argue that this list is in dire need of directors who know how to bring the fun factor to art. Therefore any Tarantino movie is welcome in my opinion.
Rotten Tomatoes helps to balance the list out somewhat. So many lists from the 50's, 60's and 70's are included in the formula, that films made after those dates are underrepresented.
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JASON FERRISS
I noticed a lot of comments about which lists to follow and I thought I'd share my own personal tact of using this site. Before I stumbled on here I used to literally print out TSPDT, IMDB 250, 1001, Criterion, and Academy and cross reference to see which movies were on the most lists. This website does that for you. Go to the movies tab, scroll down to "unchecked", then hit the tab for "on most lists". Seeing the movies that are on lists like TPSDT plus critics lists in addition to awards lists is in my opinion the best way to attack the abyss of movies out there. Personally I think this list holds the most prudence, but the top 250 is more important of an achievement for me and holds more of the movies I enjoy. The art aspect may dominant here, but the popularity aspect may dominate on IMDB 250. Different lists entail different qualities.....just as the Film Noir list is so specialized. It is important to me to be a well rounded movie watcher......I may have suffered through Persona and Toy Story 3...but I needed to watch them because I know they are both culturally important. I may not understand the level of every peel of onion in Stalker but to me movie watching is about visiting every culture, traveling to every point in time, knowing what people were watching in 1915, understanding why those vamp kids act the way they do, knowing every aspect of life. Movies give me a chance to do that. The one perfect list doesn't exist....but utilizing all the lists and understanding what they each achieve is beneficial. All the IMDB lists may dilute this tact but in most ways you'll find it works nicely. Thats what's so amazing about this site!sortile9io
I'd like to see this list without the correction factor that favours older films. Just to compare.Mochard
Changing the size of the screen by using Ctrl and + or - can sort out the alignment. I get the same problem with Doubling the Canon list.jbbeebe
Silentwarrior, it's because some of the movies are made for television miniseries type deals.spartacus007
It would be nice too see the 'checked' and 'unchecked' movies combined on one list to sort by number of top list entries. Unfortunately, that means #436 on the Top 500 Horror list counts just as much as making Roger Ebert's Great Movies list, but hey.My imaginary perfect canon would be TSPDT, with adjusted weights so that more movies made before 1955 or after 1975 have more representation.
Wise Jake
As far as 1000 lists go, they are large undertakings, and must be flawed. This one I feel is flawed in many ways because it is only critical opinions determined by a formula. Which is useful to a certain degree, but as a starting point, not as good. I'm starting with the 1001 Movies You Must See Before You Die list, which will give me a starting point for this list and Rosenbaum's. I don't put much stock in the NY Times one however, as I feel it is too flawed and unjustified. Just some thoughts.jrod944
my point wasnt to call Dark Knight an undeserving movie (although in my opinion it is not top 1000).My point was that every list is flawed. This list is flawed because it leaves off several modern classics in favor of older movies that arent as well known and that I LIKED that. Ive always loved Wilder and Godard...but because of this list I saw "One, Two, Three" and "Tout va Bien", underrated gems in their filmographies. Personally, I feel like adding the RT ratings *might* may make this list more accurate, but really takes away some of its uniqueness and charm.
Kasparius
Robocop is a masterpiece. I say that without flinching. The composition, the pacing,the beautiful stop motion sfx and the German Expressionist feel mixed with Verhoeven's fucked up sense of humor make it a priceless gem of a movie. As for Kill Bill It is insanely enjoyable. Having just sat through one the most painfully dull movie I have ever seen, The Hours of the Furnace (highly ranked on top of it all,) I would argue that this list is in dire need of directors who know how to bring the fun factor to art. Therefore any Tarantino movie is welcome in my opinion.MrCarmady
Robocop and Kill Bill are better than a whole lot of films on the list. Agree about the other two though.jarmel
I don't think this is the right place for these 4 movies :Robocop
The Truman Show
Kill Bill
The Dark Knight
Kasparius
You are right Spartacus007, the list is really far from perfect.spartacus007
Rotten Tomatoes helps to balance the list out somewhat. So many lists from the 50's, 60's and 70's are included in the formula, that films made after those dates are underrepresented.Kasparius
On a more positive note, the Rotten Tomatoes vote also made it possible to have a masterpiece like There Will Be Blood in this list.Kasparius
Actually I'll keep telling you and the likes of you. Nolan is a hack and as long as he'll fool people, I'll keep pissing in the wind.Paper_Okami
Keep telling yourself that bud.Showing items 136 – 150 of 170