I have no such problem with the word artsy, nor as HOW it's used by a large number of people. I fully comprehend that the goal of this list is to expand one's mind and attitude towards cinema, I'll be the first to support this notion in case someone disagrees with its content. Last but not least, democracy is relative but I do get that my "certain people" comment might spark that type of political attitude (when it's obvious that we never ever had democracy anywhere, heh)
My beef with a list like this one is BECAUSE a huge portion of French New Wave films or Golden Age Hollywood or New Hollywood or Italian neorealist films keep popping up, which is a never-ending cycle as it so happens in plenty of other "condensed" lists, only in a humongous dose in this TSPDT case, an ongoing scenario till kingdom come. My beef is that whether it's 1,2, 200 individuals who collected these films together proves that their mentality is that of a conventional academic who hasn't searched beyond his / her art-house comfort zone. Individuals who compiled a list like this one and threw in a couple of Brazilian, Greek, Indian, Yugoslav, Filipino etc titles just because they deemed them "important" is frankly insulting to me, as if those "selective" choices from those countries/regions "represent" those cinematic lands and if that's how life is, well then no...I won't accept Art as some kind of privileged, Western Empire-controlled infant.
Interesting... could you please elaborate on how is Lumet a hack? I never criticized "your" Marx bros or Akerman... and I certainly have the right to dislike their work as you have the right to dislike Lumet, but calling this guy a "fucking hack" is way out of line.
I KNOW, I know, this is hardly the ideal way to watch some of these classics, and while some of these uploads look just fine, the quality of others is pure shite. For those who can get hold of a better copy of those, I highly recommend it. Either way, this list is a starting point.
Some would call this a snobby list, but it's been an invaluable resource for me in finding new films to watch. It's artsy, yes, but not snobby in and of itself.
Here's the difference, though. There are a number of films on this list that I don't care for, and some filmmakers that I think are horribly overrated. Terrence Malick is a good example. I find his films incredibly pretentious and hollow. If you disagree, that's fine. But if you think that the mere fact I dislike him makes me some sort of philistine who can't appreciate good art and should "go back to watching Transformers", then yes, you are a snob. The problem is that a lot of people in this type of "artsy" film community are not only snobs, but they're too insecure to make their own opinions about films; they have to be told what is great by a list like this one.
So while I have found many films on this list that I love, including the work of Robert Bresson, Carol Reed and lesser known films of Fritz Lang, I've also been turned off by the community as a whole, thanks largely to the outspoken snobbery of a few individuals who cannot fathom the idea that I am able to enjoy both Rashomon and Lethal Weapon, both Nights of Cabiria and Bloodsport.
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Dimitris Psachos Springer
I have no such problem with the word artsy, nor as HOW it's used by a large number of people. I fully comprehend that the goal of this list is to expand one's mind and attitude towards cinema, I'll be the first to support this notion in case someone disagrees with its content. Last but not least, democracy is relative but I do get that my "certain people" comment might spark that type of political attitude (when it's obvious that we never ever had democracy anywhere, heh)My beef with a list like this one is BECAUSE a huge portion of French New Wave films or Golden Age Hollywood or New Hollywood or Italian neorealist films keep popping up, which is a never-ending cycle as it so happens in plenty of other "condensed" lists, only in a humongous dose in this TSPDT case, an ongoing scenario till kingdom come. My beef is that whether it's 1,2, 200 individuals who collected these films together proves that their mentality is that of a conventional academic who hasn't searched beyond his / her art-house comfort zone. Individuals who compiled a list like this one and threw in a couple of Brazilian, Greek, Indian, Yugoslav, Filipino etc titles just because they deemed them "important" is frankly insulting to me, as if those "selective" choices from those countries/regions "represent" those cinematic lands and if that's how life is, well then no...I won't accept Art as some kind of privileged, Western Empire-controlled infant.
bal3x
Interesting... could you please elaborate on how is Lumet a hack? I never criticized "your" Marx bros or Akerman... and I certainly have the right to dislike their work as you have the right to dislike Lumet, but calling this guy a "fucking hack" is way out of line.
jmars
Over 250 of these films can be found for free on YouTube. I've started a list here:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLEEXTstp6pbpJeQ00IpBnr8-asRb1OsEF
I KNOW, I know, this is hardly the ideal way to watch some of these classics, and while some of these uploads look just fine, the quality of others is pure shite. For those who can get hold of a better copy of those, I highly recommend it. Either way, this list is a starting point.
Esiersdale
Does anyone think it's ironic that this list doesn't include "They Shoot Horses Don't They?"Fillmore
Some would call this a snobby list, but it's been an invaluable resource for me in finding new films to watch. It's artsy, yes, but not snobby in and of itself.Here's the difference, though. There are a number of films on this list that I don't care for, and some filmmakers that I think are horribly overrated. Terrence Malick is a good example. I find his films incredibly pretentious and hollow. If you disagree, that's fine. But if you think that the mere fact I dislike him makes me some sort of philistine who can't appreciate good art and should "go back to watching Transformers", then yes, you are a snob. The problem is that a lot of people in this type of "artsy" film community are not only snobs, but they're too insecure to make their own opinions about films; they have to be told what is great by a list like this one.
So while I have found many films on this list that I love, including the work of Robert Bresson, Carol Reed and lesser known films of Fritz Lang, I've also been turned off by the community as a whole, thanks largely to the outspoken snobbery of a few individuals who cannot fathom the idea that I am able to enjoy both Rashomon and Lethal Weapon, both Nights of Cabiria and Bloodsport.
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