I'm down 7, from 247 to 254 unchecked! Sad to see so many great films fall of the list:
Das Boot
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover
Portrait of Jennie
The Incredible Shrinking Man
Menilmontant
The Unbearable Lightness of Being
Diary of a Lost Girl
City Girl
Amélie
The Saga of Gosta Berling
...
DROPPED FROM LIST
703 Das Boot
705 We All Loved Each Other So Much
810 Pixote
855 The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover
886 Portrait of Jennie
891 The Incredible Shrinking Man
892 Menilmontant
894 Les Enfants terribles
904 Radio Days
905 The Night Porter
906 The Unbearable Lightness of Being
909 The Pilgrim
915 The Dark Knight
917 Diary of a Lost Girl
919 American Gigolo
921 To Live
924 Hamlet
925 By the Bluest of Seas
929 L'Argent
931 The Last Emperor
938 The World According to Garp
939 City Girl
940 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
944 Too Early, Too Late
946 Zorn's Lemma
949 An the Ship Sails On
951 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
952 Arsenic and Old Lace
954 Gummo
956 Tobacco Road
958 Two for the Road
959 Out of Africa
961 Fallen Angels
962 American Beauty
963 Eternity and a Day
964 Amélie
965 Leolo
966 Harakiri
972 Koyaanisqatsi
973 Poison
974 Rocker
975 Jour de Fete
977 Fort Apache
980 The Baker's Wife
988 The Saga of Gosta Berling
994 The Sign of Leo
995 Bienvenido Mister Marshall
996 Yesterday Girl
1000 Kill Bill Vol. 1
NEW MOVIES
503 Withnail & I
620 Swing Time
649 Secrets & Lies
692 Vengance is Mine
713 Rififi
721 Audition
731 A Short Film About Killing
753 Harlan County, U.S.A.
755 Marketa Lazarova
773 Out 1, noli me tangere
781 The Round-Up
794 Sleeper
816 Dodsworth
817 Yol
821 L' Arrivée d'un train à la Ciotat
828 Mother India
831 The Haunting
836 Zabriskie Point
837 Funny Games (1997)
839 L'Enfance nue
851 Russian Ark
857 The Big Red One
858 My Man Godfrey
864 Wanda
865 Awaara
868 Edvard Munch (TV)
869 In Cold Blood
874 Atlantic City
879 Wreckmeister Harmonies
883 Night and the City
887 The Ladykillers (1955)
888 Star Spangled to Death
889 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days
893 Flaming Creatures
898 The Killers (1946)
902 Bellissima
903 The Age of the Earth
904 To Sleep with Anger
910 The Organiser
911 The Incredibles
914 On Dangerous Ground
923 Au revoir les enfants
925 Entr'acte
978 People on Sunday
985 Louisiana Story
993 Variety
996 Fury
999 Forty Guns
1000 Toni
It was in the introduction to the latest edition:
"However, it must be said that the 1,000 Greatest Films is an extremely flawed and, to be honest, neglectful assemblage of movies. For the record, most of the lists we have factored in have derived from either Europe or the United States. This has not been intentional. We've just grabbed what's available, and 9 times out of 10 it has been a European-based or a USA-based list/poll. This, in turn, quite clearly explains why approximately 90% of the list comprises films from only these parts of the world. Approximately just a miserly 10% of Asia's, South America's, Africa's, and Australasia's cinema (combined) is represented. This is a glaring imbalance that will hopefully be rectified by future updates, and not by us fudging the books (even though we have been tempted to). Ideally, we believe that a 75/25 split rather than 90/10 would, as a starting point, be more representative of the world's best cinema."
2 JirinPanthosa: the guys from TSPDT made a promise to alter their method of "net-casting" next year, so we can hope for a wider range of names and countries.
Out of most of the internet lists I've found (Except for ones generated on the Mubi forum) this one tends to be the most inclusive of both mainstream and art films. The only problem is that for any kind of voted list, not having seen a film is the same as voting against it, which causes a big exposure bias, which will always favor countries like the US, France, Japan, etc.
But, I don't see any way a list can cast a wide net without having that bias.
Anyway, if you are so inclined to find great directors not included on this list, Sarunas Bartas is effing amazing, and so are Ruiz and Monteiro.
First of all I never banned you from the forum. The first time you got "banned for good" I took the responsibility to PM you the ultimatum as you were insulting everyone, constantly swearing off opinions, telling people they should suck cocks, etc. You simply had no idea how to behave on a forum, and with the amount of complaints we got, and how terrible you made the atmosphere you had to be removed. If you ever understand and it was your behavior and language and not your opinions that got you kicked, and decide to be nice to everyone I'm sure we'll let you back in.
Your behavior as jamesjoyce was quite good, and I actually did not know you had been kicked again - of course you had been kicked for good so signing up with a different account shouldn't really change that, but I was certainly open to keeping you on as long as you behaved despite this.
It might please you to know that I'm one of the people who defended your right to stay the most internally, and I'm the reason why you even got an ultimatum in the first place rather than just being banned without getting to say anything to defend yourself.
P.S. I actually agree with you on everything about distribution of foreign cinema, except that people are dumb, prejudiced and illiteral for not seeking out films they have absolutely no way of knowing a thing about. It's the counties/artists own fault for not getting their product out there! Now anyone would give their time to make subtitles for films that were previously without them are heroes in my eyes, and I do believe that everything should be widely available. It would also be wonderful to get lists for basically every country on ICM.
I'm curious as to how you come to the conclusion that people are prejudiced, when you yourself state that there aren't many lists from these nations. How are people to know of these films?
" No, 'artsy' is used by people to describe movies that primarily focus on artistic quality rather than entertainment. "
That's not exactly I see it. I think artsy / artistic films are creations that try to be more out of the box and unique than the average film. All film is, or at least should only be focused on one think entertainment. What's the point of making a film if you don't want people to get captivated by it? Several people are actually entertained by being intellectually stimilating or seeing something that challenges the norm.
I've also grown to love the term "artsy". It just sits right on the tongue somehow. And I have to tell you; Artsy cinema is the best of cinema ;D
Jimbo - I find it odd though that countries like Iran, which is probably the country that's on the worst terms with the west is such a popular movie country, and has several films on this list, when you claim that people only run to their comfort zones. I'm perfectly willing to believe that there's tons of great cinema from the countries you mention, but for some reason they haven't caught the world's eye. The problem is therefor not that people are being prejudice against these countries, but rather that too few people have seen their good stuff.
If you know of great professional lists from/of these regions please make the people running TSP aware of these so the list can grow.
OK, I see. I agree that TSPDT and Rosenbaum (even though it's just a personal list) are 2 of the best lists here. Ain't Nobody's Blues But My Own is certainly interesting, but contains too many dubious selections and obscurities that are even impossible to locate.
I'm banned Bal boy, long time no see for someone who's actually FREE to come and go whenever he / she likes to.
Anyways, sure...it may not be a fully comprehensive World Cinema list but none of them are. Including the Jonathan Rosenbaum one but I respect the Rosenbaum list a whole lot more being a solely subjective list compared to this "let's all sing-a-long and pick films based on a previous / current status quo" mentality.
My personal favorite list though (so far) is the Ain't Nobody's Blues But My Own, if anything because even if there are several dubiously selected titles, there's a good load of randomly selected titles from various countries for a fine measure of style and taste. If only it were a complete 1000 films list just like its original counterpart, TSPDT.
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Thorkell
Very funny spartacus007! :)I'm down 7, from 247 to 254 unchecked! Sad to see so many great films fall of the list:
Das Boot
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover
Portrait of Jennie
The Incredible Shrinking Man
Menilmontant
The Unbearable Lightness of Being
Diary of a Lost Girl
City Girl
Amélie
The Saga of Gosta Berling
...
spartacus007
I'm down 2. :( I've usually gained until now.I isolated the comedies on the new list and put them here:
http://www.icheckmovies.com/lists/they+shoot+pictures+comedy/spartacus007/
Because sometime you're just not in the mood for a 9 1/2 hour documentary about the Holocaust.
Ibetolis
Woo-Hoo. I'm up 4 films. First time that has ever happened, I usually lose out every year. Love that Withnail & I has got some love.spartacus007
DROPPED FROM LIST703 Das Boot
705 We All Loved Each Other So Much
810 Pixote
855 The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover
886 Portrait of Jennie
891 The Incredible Shrinking Man
892 Menilmontant
894 Les Enfants terribles
904 Radio Days
905 The Night Porter
906 The Unbearable Lightness of Being
909 The Pilgrim
915 The Dark Knight
917 Diary of a Lost Girl
919 American Gigolo
921 To Live
924 Hamlet
925 By the Bluest of Seas
929 L'Argent
931 The Last Emperor
938 The World According to Garp
939 City Girl
940 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
944 Too Early, Too Late
946 Zorn's Lemma
949 An the Ship Sails On
951 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
952 Arsenic and Old Lace
954 Gummo
956 Tobacco Road
958 Two for the Road
959 Out of Africa
961 Fallen Angels
962 American Beauty
963 Eternity and a Day
964 Amélie
965 Leolo
966 Harakiri
972 Koyaanisqatsi
973 Poison
974 Rocker
975 Jour de Fete
977 Fort Apache
980 The Baker's Wife
988 The Saga of Gosta Berling
994 The Sign of Leo
995 Bienvenido Mister Marshall
996 Yesterday Girl
1000 Kill Bill Vol. 1
spartacus007
NEW MOVIES503 Withnail & I
620 Swing Time
649 Secrets & Lies
692 Vengance is Mine
713 Rififi
721 Audition
731 A Short Film About Killing
753 Harlan County, U.S.A.
755 Marketa Lazarova
773 Out 1, noli me tangere
781 The Round-Up
794 Sleeper
816 Dodsworth
817 Yol
821 L' Arrivée d'un train à la Ciotat
828 Mother India
831 The Haunting
836 Zabriskie Point
837 Funny Games (1997)
839 L'Enfance nue
851 Russian Ark
857 The Big Red One
858 My Man Godfrey
864 Wanda
865 Awaara
868 Edvard Munch (TV)
869 In Cold Blood
874 Atlantic City
879 Wreckmeister Harmonies
883 Night and the City
887 The Ladykillers (1955)
888 Star Spangled to Death
889 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days
893 Flaming Creatures
898 The Killers (1946)
902 Bellissima
903 The Age of the Earth
904 To Sleep with Anger
910 The Organiser
911 The Incredibles
914 On Dangerous Ground
923 Au revoir les enfants
925 Entr'acte
978 People on Sunday
985 Louisiana Story
993 Variety
996 Fury
999 Forty Guns
1000 Toni
worstmovies
@CrindermanIt was in the introduction to the latest edition:
"However, it must be said that the 1,000 Greatest Films is an extremely flawed and, to be honest, neglectful assemblage of movies. For the record, most of the lists we have factored in have derived from either Europe or the United States. This has not been intentional. We've just grabbed what's available, and 9 times out of 10 it has been a European-based or a USA-based list/poll. This, in turn, quite clearly explains why approximately 90% of the list comprises films from only these parts of the world. Approximately just a miserly 10% of Asia's, South America's, Africa's, and Australasia's cinema (combined) is represented. This is a glaring imbalance that will hopefully be rectified by future updates, and not by us fudging the books (even though we have been tempted to). Ideally, we believe that a 75/25 split rather than 90/10 would, as a starting point, be more representative of the world's best cinema."
http://theyshootpictures.com/gf1000.htm
St. Gloede
@Pickman - This could prove very interesting! Remember where you read that?Pickman
2 JirinPanthosa: the guys from TSPDT made a promise to alter their method of "net-casting" next year, so we can hope for a wider range of names and countries.JirinPanthosa
Out of most of the internet lists I've found (Except for ones generated on the Mubi forum) this one tends to be the most inclusive of both mainstream and art films. The only problem is that for any kind of voted list, not having seen a film is the same as voting against it, which causes a big exposure bias, which will always favor countries like the US, France, Japan, etc.But, I don't see any way a list can cast a wide net without having that bias.
Anyway, if you are so inclined to find great directors not included on this list, Sarunas Bartas is effing amazing, and so are Ruiz and Monteiro.
St. Gloede
First of all I never banned you from the forum. The first time you got "banned for good" I took the responsibility to PM you the ultimatum as you were insulting everyone, constantly swearing off opinions, telling people they should suck cocks, etc. You simply had no idea how to behave on a forum, and with the amount of complaints we got, and how terrible you made the atmosphere you had to be removed. If you ever understand and it was your behavior and language and not your opinions that got you kicked, and decide to be nice to everyone I'm sure we'll let you back in.Your behavior as jamesjoyce was quite good, and I actually did not know you had been kicked again - of course you had been kicked for good so signing up with a different account shouldn't really change that, but I was certainly open to keeping you on as long as you behaved despite this.
It might please you to know that I'm one of the people who defended your right to stay the most internally, and I'm the reason why you even got an ultimatum in the first place rather than just being banned without getting to say anything to defend yourself.
P.S. I actually agree with you on everything about distribution of foreign cinema, except that people are dumb, prejudiced and illiteral for not seeking out films they have absolutely no way of knowing a thing about. It's the counties/artists own fault for not getting their product out there! Now anyone would give their time to make subtitles for films that were previously without them are heroes in my eyes, and I do believe that everything should be widely available. It would also be wonderful to get lists for basically every country on ICM.
St. Gloede
I'm curious as to how you come to the conclusion that people are prejudiced, when you yourself state that there aren't many lists from these nations. How are people to know of these films?St. Gloede
" No, 'artsy' is used by people to describe movies that primarily focus on artistic quality rather than entertainment. "That's not exactly I see it. I think artsy / artistic films are creations that try to be more out of the box and unique than the average film. All film is, or at least should only be focused on one think entertainment. What's the point of making a film if you don't want people to get captivated by it? Several people are actually entertained by being intellectually stimilating or seeing something that challenges the norm.
I've also grown to love the term "artsy". It just sits right on the tongue somehow. And I have to tell you; Artsy cinema is the best of cinema ;D
St. Gloede
Jimbo - I find it odd though that countries like Iran, which is probably the country that's on the worst terms with the west is such a popular movie country, and has several films on this list, when you claim that people only run to their comfort zones. I'm perfectly willing to believe that there's tons of great cinema from the countries you mention, but for some reason they haven't caught the world's eye. The problem is therefor not that people are being prejudice against these countries, but rather that too few people have seen their good stuff.If you know of great professional lists from/of these regions please make the people running TSP aware of these so the list can grow.
bal3x
OK, I see. I agree that TSPDT and Rosenbaum (even though it's just a personal list) are 2 of the best lists here. Ain't Nobody's Blues But My Own is certainly interesting, but contains too many dubious selections and obscurities that are even impossible to locate.Dimitris Psachos Springer
I'm banned Bal boy, long time no see for someone who's actually FREE to come and go whenever he / she likes to.Anyways, sure...it may not be a fully comprehensive World Cinema list but none of them are. Including the Jonathan Rosenbaum one but I respect the Rosenbaum list a whole lot more being a solely subjective list compared to this "let's all sing-a-long and pick films based on a previous / current status quo" mentality.
My personal favorite list though (so far) is the Ain't Nobody's Blues But My Own, if anything because even if there are several dubiously selected titles, there's a good load of randomly selected titles from various countries for a fine measure of style and taste. If only it were a complete 1000 films list just like its original counterpart, TSPDT.
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