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Timec
brian_fuller - I guess it depends on what your class conversation was about. If the professor was attempting to get the class to make sense of the narrative, then it was a futile exercise.On the other hand, surrealism, at its best, is a strongly political and intellectual movement. Whether the artists intended it or not (judging by their other works, I would say they did), the film does have much to say about the nature of editing, of the various components that make up a film, and of narrative in general. Because we are watching a film, we are psychologically forced into finding a coherent narrative where there is none. A constructive conversation could indeed be had about the film's usurpation of traditional narrative and film grammar and for its strong psychological effect.
And, for the record, your last sentence basically says: "I dislike it when people agree with my obviously objective opinion about a film." Unfortunately, like a film or not, the Emperor is very rarely naked, and he certainly is not in this case. The film is an utter delight to watch, and there is more going on then you'd like to admit. After watching it the first time, I immediately started it over - not to find some "missing piece" that would finally allow the film to make sense, but rather to revel in its indelible imagery and hilarious "mind games."
The "16 years earlier" card in the middle of the bedroom scene still manages to crack me up every time.
brian_fuller
Andalusian Dog was my introduction to film school. A professor screened it for students the first night of class, then led us in extended deconstruction. I presume his intent was to inspire discussion with cognitive dissonance.Collaborators Salvador Dalí and Luis Buñuel surely wanted to mess with minds when they made the film in 1929. And, yes, audiences often talk about the film at great length afterward. They are trying to make sense of a stack of surreal and disturbing images. But Buñuel himself argued that there was no sense to be made of them.
And so I heard in that night's soundtrack -- there beneath voices engaged in serious academic discussion -- distant, derisive laughter from the grave. I heard Dalí and Buñuel chuckling as we worked to rationally explain what we had seen and what it meant.
Maybe I don't truly dislike this film. Perhaps instead, I dislike the too-serious gaze of the scholar who cannot admit when the Emperor is indeed naked.
guffaa88
Both of the leading actors committed suicide a few years after the movie was filmed...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Un_Chien_Andalou
starnamedstork
I do believe the title roughly translates into "15 minutes of WTF".TheBanana
Truly disturbing. And yet so brilliant in a way. Argh.Dieguito
Hallucinating, surrealist, memorable scenes, amazing soundtrack!! Best short ever!spartacus007
http://www.zappinternet.com/video/danPvuMpaX/Un-chien-Andalou-1928kottonen
This was an experience of a film. The kind where, after watching, my partner and I both opened the relevant Wikipedia article with its very detailed synopsis to confirm: yes, that was, indeed, what we had seen. There was that bit with armpit hair, and that part with the clerics, and the stripy box, and–Intended as a slap, a provocation, a smirk into the stupidly-round face of bourgeoisie, Un Chien Andalou is a technical feat and, in places, absurd to the point of being funny. Directed by young Luis Buñuel and written by young Salvador Dali, it is supposed to satirise the art contemporary to it, but ends up becoming a part of the cinematic canon.
It is great to once again see the diversity of silent film and the extent it had developed in the late 1920s. Another point is the fashion, the interiors, the French streets as they existed at the time. I am so used to seeing all of that recreated on film, but here is genuine article!
I have come across the notion that music videos owe their style to Un Chien Andalou. Perhaps. There, certainly, are similarities. In my own turn, I rather started thinking about David Lynch and his taste for the absurd and horrific.
SkilledLunatic
I didn't get it either but you're not supposed to. It was dream sequence with strange juxtapositions, made to shock and bring out emotions. It succeeds.Also I agree with @Daddy Cool, if this is shocking for us, imagine it in 1929...
I-M-Pulsive
Wow, that must've been way ahead of it's time. It is still sometimes quite shocking. Imagine what that would be like in 1929Yukon Cornelius
Wow....rtrench
slicing up eyeballswhoa ho ho ho
Ivan0716
Surrealism in its purest form.pfluke
I can practically smell the absintheSkilledLunatic
"It was Buñuel's intention to shock and insult the intellectual bourgeoisie of his youth, later saying: Historically, this film represents a violent reaction against what at that time was called 'avantgarde cine,' which was directed exclusively to the artistic sensibility and to the reason of the spectator. Against his hopes and expectations, the film was a huge success amongst the French bourgeoisie, leading Buñuel to exclaim in exasperation, "What can I do about the people who adore all that is new, even when it goes against their deepest convictions, or about the insincere, corrupt press, and the inane herd that saw beauty or poetry in something which was basically no more than a desperate impassioned call for murder?"They wanted to be hated.
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